Judy Garland getting dragged on Twitter for doing blackface.

The comments are just as bad as you'd expect. Judy was one of the most talented singers ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they

The comments are just as bad as you'd expect.

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by Anonymousreply 117September 5, 2023 11:09 PM

Judy was one of the most talented singers ever. She also had a lot of pain and struggle throughout her life. Despite that, she had a good heart, which is hard to encounter in Hollywood. At a time when gay people were oppressed beyond belief, they identified with her struggles and she theirs.

by Anonymousreply 1January 16, 2023 4:38 AM

OK. Who's going to cancel her?

by Anonymousreply 2January 16, 2023 4:55 AM

Yeah...like Judy was going to say "Uh, Mr. Mayer, about that blackface"...

by Anonymousreply 3January 16, 2023 5:01 AM

I do not give a fuck about how people who born over a hundred years ago behaved. Putting a modern identity politics lens onto Old Hollywood is one of the worst popular critical trends I’ve ever seen.

This is obviously an exaggerated variation of it that no one takes seriously, but sanctimonious bullshit like the podcast You Must Remember This (run by directing hack Rian Johnson’s wife) engages in that kind of behavior all the time. Every grown woman in Old Hollywood was a traumatized little angel who was the victim of those meanie cheating bastard men! Give me a fucking break! The YouTube channel Be Kind Rewind also inserts modern feminist and racial lenses into the time period where they makes no fucking sense for to exist.

by Anonymousreply 4January 16, 2023 5:02 AM

*make no fucking sense to exist. Drunk AND on my phone

by Anonymousreply 5January 16, 2023 5:03 AM

[quote] Yeah...like Judy was going to say "Uh, Mr. Mayer, about that blackface"...

Especially while being fingered by a munchkin.

by Anonymousreply 6January 16, 2023 5:04 AM

R4 Hey. Don’t feel bad. Some rock star wrote ‘for there ain't no one for to give you no pain’ and acted like it was an ok lyric.

Poor Judy. Not even here to defend herself.

by Anonymousreply 8January 16, 2023 5:08 AM

The movie was made in 1938 when Judy was 15 years old. The current objections weren’t widely held beliefs at that time, and certainly weren’t enough for a teenager to tell Louis B. Mayer that she wasn’t going to do blackface.

Next.

by Anonymousreply 9January 16, 2023 5:10 AM

Has Al Jolson been cancelled yet?

by Anonymousreply 11January 16, 2023 5:18 AM

Then there's this fool who thinks her problems were "karmic" for doing blackface.

I've been harassed by black Twitter for stating something they disagreed with and I don't want to deal with that again. But I'd really like to ask about what they think about the problems that Billie Holliday, Dorothy Dandridge, Prince, Whitney, Bobbie Kristina, DMX etc all had that they deserved to live and die so tragically.

by Anonymousreply 12January 16, 2023 5:25 AM

I'm going to make a stand- alone post about an incident in Seattle that happened last summer, but here's a basic outline:

Gen Z employees walked off the job in solidarity with a transwoman who was upset that the theater was going to show Bette Midler's film Hocus Pocus in October as part of their Halloween series.

The trans employee got upset because Bette tweeted her solidarity with women and denounced dehumanizing woke words such as: vagina-owner, bleeder, uterus-haver, chest-feeder, and bodies-with-vaginas. The children said that Bette was being transphobic.

I wish I was making this shit up. What's even more depressing is that The Stranger is Dan Savage's alt weekly. I know that he was on vacation that month so I'm not sure if he would have green-lighted the piece, but it's disappointing that he would put a woke editor in charge while he was away.

Also, the transwoman has a TikTok page. She's right out of AGP central casting.

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by Anonymousreply 13January 16, 2023 5:25 AM

R13 does this mean that we’re going to start calling rapists “front hole bandits?”

by Anonymousreply 14January 16, 2023 5:30 AM

If only Judy had been a democratic governor or a Liberal Party Canadian Prime Minister this would all have been swept under the carpet. Bad planning Judy.

by Anonymousreply 15January 16, 2023 5:53 AM

She was a woman of her time.

by Anonymousreply 16January 16, 2023 6:00 AM

Racism that happened eighty-five years ago must be stopped!

by Anonymousreply 18January 16, 2023 6:44 AM

Idiots who are offended don't know that blackface was an accepted theatrical convention in those days. THOSE days. Long, long ago.

by Anonymousreply 19January 16, 2023 6:50 AM

Idk, if I’m being totally honest, she looked hot af and totally fuckable while in blackface 🤷🏾‍♀️

by Anonymousreply 20January 16, 2023 7:12 AM

I have a good friend who is a college history professor who says her students always want to protest things that happened years ago. She told them this semester when Jerry Lee Lewis died that he had married his thirteen-yea-old cousin in the 1950s and they went absolutely nuts.

by Anonymousreply 21January 16, 2023 7:27 AM

Even black performers would paint themselves up. The white lips, teeth, eyes, and gloves would brightly shine, seemingly acting independently of the barely visible dark suited performer. Effectively a special effect to the old time audiences.

When Cantor retired it pretty much went with him.

People like Joan Collins made up as an Egyptian isn't real blackface.

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by Anonymousreply 22January 16, 2023 7:41 AM

Because Judy's voice reminded lots of people of Al Jolson's, she did blackface frequently in her teenage films.

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by Anonymousreply 24January 16, 2023 7:53 AM

I had a white student berate me in front of a class last year for getting them to read an academic article that contained references to and an image of blackface performance, accusing the article of 'being racist' and haughtily told me I should reconsider the reading that I had set the class.

So many students clearly have an inability to objectively deal with history, especially when it affords them an opportunity to aggressively express their contemporary mores.

by Anonymousreply 25January 16, 2023 7:59 AM

College prof, tank god tenured. Counting the final few years to retirement as this is exhausting.

We olds cannot win this battle. I like young people for their many positive sides and their optimism and they aren't ruined and bitter.

But on this issue, they are both exhausting and wrong. I think they face big disappointments as they mature and can't demand their preferred experiences.

by Anonymousreply 27January 16, 2023 8:17 AM

Elizabeth Taylor did blackface in the 80’s. That’s less excusable.

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by Anonymousreply 28January 16, 2023 8:21 AM

Blackface just looks so fucking stupid it doesn't matter who's doing it or what time period it was so damn corny. It's offensive only because of how over the top ridiculous it looks. Watching the video, garland looks completely stupid as they all did because it's so obvious you're not Black and it's bizarre that the so called "master race" had such an obsession with being everyone but themselves. The painted lips and eyes, the exaggerated features, I don't know how it was considered entertaining back then except white people being incredibly dense and bored with themselves, a generational curse. With all that said I'm really not outraged as Black person, ding dong Judy is dead. Get a life Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 30January 16, 2023 8:35 AM

R30

[quote]Get a life Twitter.

But you see my dear, if they had a life they wouldn’t be on Twitter in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 31January 16, 2023 8:38 AM

Strangely they don't seem concerned about the perverts doing woman face in 2023.

Priorities I guess.

by Anonymousreply 32January 16, 2023 9:15 AM

Garland worked for Mayer, MGM. The studio dictated what went in a film and Hollywood embraced blackface. Garland was a kid who would not even recognize political aspects of her time and if she did she had no power as a kid to make anything of her opinion. She was a product of her time and doing whatever the Hollywood studio told her to do.

by Anonymousreply 33January 16, 2023 1:07 PM

Here’s a real knee-slapper:

“ She's also a white lgbtq icon. Not sure why...but I wouldn't be surprised if this was some element of it.”

by Anonymousreply 35January 16, 2023 3:51 PM

[quote]Has Al Jolson been cancelled yet?

No, just forgotten.

by Anonymousreply 36January 16, 2023 4:06 PM

R30, you really should proofread or run your comments through Grammarly before posting.

by Anonymousreply 37January 16, 2023 4:09 PM

I VOW TO NEVER ATTEND ANOTHER ONE OF HER CONCERTS!!

by Anonymousreply 38January 16, 2023 4:09 PM

This didn't go viral, it's just OP posting a link to a shitty Twitter troll. The guy he linked to is so sketchy I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't OP's own account. It's full of others' content that's been reposted, with his own poorly written text added to it.

Not only that, but every blue check account on that thread is some scammer who paid for the check, including the guy r35 quoted.

I know you guys don't understand Twitter or social media, but can you understand that OP links to nobodies saying stupid things that don't matter, just to get you riled up? And can you not let yourself get manipulated by this every single day?

by Anonymousreply 39January 16, 2023 4:21 PM

omg who cares it was a billion years ago

by Anonymousreply 40January 16, 2023 4:49 PM

R39 - How often do I create threads? I've been on DL for about 25 years and I've probably started under 20 threads. I posted this because it riled ME up. You think I created that account that I linked to in order to what?

What a fucking asshole. Go fuck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 42January 16, 2023 5:18 PM

The solution is simple. All these twitter commentators need to aggressively surround Judy's grave and start screaming "anti-black! Anti-black! ANTI-BLACKKKKK!!!!!!". That will solve everything.

by Anonymousreply 43January 16, 2023 5:31 PM

When Whoopi Goldberg was roasted by the Friar's Club in the 80s her boyfriend at the time Ted Danson (what was HE on?) did a comedy routine (which she said was partially sritten by her) where he did a bit in full blackface. Roger Ebert reported on it:

" It's a tradition of the celebrity roasts at the Friar's Club that everything goes - that no joke is in such bad taste that it cannot be told. Friday, that tradition may have ended, as a roast for Whoopi Goldberg turned into such a tasteless display that some audience members hid their faces in their hands, and others left.

They cringed in disbelief during the opening monologue by actor Ted Danson, Whoopi's lover, who appeared in blackface and used the word "ni**er" more than a dozen times during a series of jokes that drew smaller and smaller laughs, until finally the audience was groaning and Danson faltered as he tried to plow through his written material.

At one point he even ate watermelon."

Another report stated:

"Danson might not have recovered from the disastrous performance were it not for the fact that Goldberg stood by him so unreservedly. When she appeared onstage after his performance, she fumed at the audience’s obvious disgust. “It takes a lot of courage to come out in blackface in front of 3,000,” she said. “I don’t care if you don’t like it. I do!” She later said that she herself had written much of Danson’s material, and called the backlash “insane.” She accused his critics of not understanding comedy. “Whoopi has never been about political correctness,” she told the Times. The couple announced their breakup less than a month after the roast. By then, the scandal had mostly died down. Danson rarely discusses the roast, but he reflected on it at some length in a 2009 interview on Fresh Air, calling it “a graceless moment in my life.”

by Anonymousreply 44January 17, 2023 1:06 AM

The NY Times provided info"

A partial list of people who have appeared in blackface on screen and stage in the 186 years since [blackface “pioneer” Thomas Dartmouth] Rice’s performance on the Bowery includes: Desi Arnaz, Fred Astaire, Dan Aykroyd, Freeman Gosden and Charles Correll (from “Amos ‘n’ Andy”), Ethel Barrymore, Milton Berle, Jimmy Cagney, Joan Crawford, Bing Crosby, Billy Crystal, Ted Danson, Marion Davies, Robert Downey Jr., Judy Garland, Alec Guinness, Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy, Benny Hill, Bob Hope, Boris Karloff, Buster Keaton, Hedy Lamarr, Janet Leigh, Harold Lloyd, Sophia Loren, Myrna Loy, the Marx Brothers, David Niven, Laurence Olivier, Will Rogers, Mickey Rooney, Frank Sinatra, Grace Slick, Spencer Tracy, Shirley Temple, John Wayne, Mae West, Gene Wilder and the Three Stooges.

by Anonymousreply 45January 17, 2023 1:08 AM

What's wrong with a little tan ?

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by Anonymousreply 46January 17, 2023 1:17 AM

And then there’s Bananarama.

by Anonymousreply 47January 18, 2023 2:24 AM

“They WHAT? Liza, get me the phone. Joey, get Mama’s blue pills.”

by Anonymousreply 48January 18, 2023 2:31 AM

Oh for fuck's sake - back in the day things were very different than they are now in America.

Judy's fine, her blackface is fine, it's all from a thousand years ago. Leave her the fuck alone.

by Anonymousreply 50January 18, 2023 2:40 AM

Fuck this. Life moves on.

by Anonymousreply 51January 18, 2023 2:44 AM

Interesting - lots of fake/bot accounts replying.

by Anonymousreply 52January 18, 2023 2:47 AM

Leave her alone. A sign of past times. We realise it’s wrong now and uncomfortable to watch. At least we have moved on even if it’s still not enough. A mistake of an era, not just an individual. Don’t watch it.

by Anonymousreply 53January 18, 2023 9:24 AM

Maybe it was insensitive, but Judy was no racist. Which is more than one can say about many of her contemporaries.

by Anonymousreply 54January 18, 2023 4:55 PM

Those able-ist bitches will get there's.

by Anonymousreply 55January 18, 2023 5:08 PM

R53 You realize of course that 100 years from now people will be saying the same thing about the whole transgender/nonbinary craze. People will look at pictures of dudes with green hair and purple lipstick and cringe.

by Anonymousreply 56January 18, 2023 6:19 PM

I’m finally ahead of the times R56 because I cringe most of the time now.

by Anonymousreply 57January 18, 2023 9:22 PM

Two of the greatest musical numbers I've ever seen in movie musicals are in blackface: Bojangles of Harlem which is one of the most astounding things Astaire ever did and the minstrel number in Babes on Broadway where both Garland and Busby Berkeley are at the top of their considerable talents.

by Anonymousreply 58January 18, 2023 10:15 PM

I'm with you, r58. Judy's "FDR Jones" is thrilling - love the Berkeley 'boom shot' at the finish but you know he was screaming at Garland and Rooney to "GOOGLE your EYES!!!"

by Anonymousreply 59January 18, 2023 10:42 PM

Marion as a Pinkerton spy infiltrating the Confederate headquarters of Jeb Stuart by posing as black slave. And in the meantime falling in love with Rebel officer Gary Cooper

According to the American Film Institute catalog the contemporary Variety review said: ‘Miss Davies is particularly effective as a colored wench, a disguise she simulates in one major chapter as the maid to Katherine Alexander. Her dialect and mannerisms are decidedly effective.’

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by Anonymousreply 60January 18, 2023 10:56 PM

^ What a pile of horseshit that was R60

by Anonymousreply 61January 18, 2023 11:08 PM

MGM owned up to its racism though. They put disclaimers before their movies and Tom & Jerry shorts explaining how wrong it was but they never hid that history. Warner Bros was the same, released every Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies short with disclaimers.

Disney on the other hand has made many of the shorts of Mickey Mouse with blackface unavailable legally (you can find them on YouTube) or heavily censored or banned their Silly Symphony shorts that have blackface caricatures. The very racist film Song of the South has been unavailable to own in The US (you can find it online though) since it was never released on VHS or DVD/Blu-Ray or on streaming. However, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah is still heard in Disney Parks, snippets from Song of the South on Disney Sing-A-Long VHS tapes and Splash Mountain until very recently was a popular ride featuring Bre'r Rabbit and Bre'r Bear from Song of the South.

by Anonymousreply 62January 18, 2023 11:10 PM

As a black person, it IS hurtful to see Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz have her face painted brown and mock you.

But I understand it was different times and it wasn’t her choice.

But at the same time, it’s sad and hurtful to watch.

by Anonymousreply 63January 18, 2023 11:11 PM

FDR Jones is not great dancing. Judy looks like a chicken through most of it.

by Anonymousreply 64January 18, 2023 11:19 PM

The Astaire number mentioned above however is hypnotizing and extremely artful.

by Anonymousreply 65January 18, 2023 11:19 PM

r62: Disney's most notorious racist caricature, "Sunflower" the black centaurette, was scrubbed from official re-release prints of FANTASIA as early as 1969.

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by Anonymousreply 66January 18, 2023 11:32 PM

R4 Modern identity politics to WHO? White people?

This is where your own racism pops up because you’re erasing black people from this time and dismissing what they thought.

As if white people have the only valued beliefs.

Bottom line is black people didn’t like it then and they don’t like it now. But according to you, that’s irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 67January 18, 2023 11:32 PM

I was going to say, R63, I support Disney's decisions about suppressing this old stuff especially because so many children are Disney fans. No little black kid needs to see a beloved character like Mickey Mouse caricaturing their "race" (quotes just because "race" is a weird, inaccurate concept).

I think R53 has it right. People who look at this Judy Garland movie need to understand the historical context, not to excuse it but to know the whole picture behind blackface. In other words, no one should be celebrating or excusing it, and I frankly don't see how anyone today can enjoy it (it's an embarrassing and shameful practice to look back on now), but it's not a matter of an individual like Judy Garland not being alert and sensitive enough to refuse to do blackface.

There is zero point in blaming a performer who's been dead for over 50 years for something she was told to do in a movie once. It does nothing to move the discussion forward. But that's the world we live in: people like to bring big problems down to individuals. It's too easy to feel like you've "done something about racism" by ranting about one person via social media.

by Anonymousreply 68January 18, 2023 11:34 PM

So long as Disney never re-releases SONG OF THE SOUTH, I can look at some Judy in blackface. Measles, not herpes.

by Anonymousreply 69January 18, 2023 11:47 PM

We all knew Judy had been touched by the tar brush. What's the big deal?

by Anonymousreply 70January 18, 2023 11:51 PM

R68 I agree, in movies that children watch because it should not be normalized to them and they are too young to have that type of discussion. Though I wish Disney could separate that and allow adult fans of animation to own these shorts and Song of the South no matter how problematic because it's a part of history. Little kids still watch Tom & Jerry but the censored versions (where Mammy is re-dubbed with a more modern sounding voice). But the original version is available for adult fans on official releases.

by Anonymousreply 71January 18, 2023 11:54 PM

SONG OF THE SOUTH features two of the most cringe-inducing child performances from Bobby Driscoll & Luana Patten.

by Anonymousreply 72January 18, 2023 11:55 PM

[quote] Tom & Jerry but the censored versions (where Mammy is re-dubbed

Progressives removing blacks from history but this cannot prevail in the long run

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by Anonymousreply 73January 19, 2023 12:01 AM

Historical context is beyond most people.

by Anonymousreply 75January 19, 2023 12:07 AM

It would be amazing to not only have access to the uncensored content in an academic environment that's mature enough to have a meaningful discussion about what and how depictions are represented then, vs a few decades later, to a century later.

Unfortunately it seems like all of the adults have left the table because of all of the selfish, shortsighted, and entitled children that need a trigger warning over a cartoon depiction of a pickaninny.

A TCM special would be a great move to get content to an audience with more inquiring mindsets.

by Anonymousreply 76January 19, 2023 12:12 AM

R73 Mammy Two-Shoes in Tom & Jerry is a racist caricature (she carries razor blades and dice) but at the same time is a well-developed character with a personality and was very intelligent (despite her strong Southern black vernacular). It's even implied in later shorts that she owns Tom and owns her own house. Earlier shorts, implied she was a maid for a white family. So social mobility. It helps she's voiced by a talented black woman performer like Lillian Randolph who defended the role. Not showing her face definitely helped. Not as horrifying as Petunia from Little Audrey.

by Anonymousreply 77January 19, 2023 12:17 AM

[quote] She's remember for playing Dorothy, in "The Wizard Of Oz"

Of course they can’t speak proper English.

by Anonymousreply 78January 19, 2023 12:32 AM

[quote] Has Al Jolson been cancelled yet?

The grandfather of blackface? That would be antisemetic.

by Anonymousreply 79January 19, 2023 12:33 AM

[quote] Has Al Jolson been cancelled yet?

The father of blackface? That would be antisemetic.

by Anonymousreply 80January 19, 2023 12:34 AM

Jolson was friends with a lot of the black comedians during his heyday when it was frowned upon to socialize with blacks.

by Anonymousreply 81January 19, 2023 12:35 AM

Lucy did yellowface in “The Lucy Show”. Cancelled!

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by Anonymousreply 82January 19, 2023 12:35 AM

[quote] Jolson was friends with a lot of the black comedians during his heyday when it was frowned upon to socialize with blacks.

Which is why he mocked them non-stop for decades. Stop.

by Anonymousreply 83January 19, 2023 12:36 AM

If you dare to watch anything with Judy Garland now, you’re a racist!

by Anonymousreply 84January 19, 2023 12:37 AM

Blackface was a way for white entertainers to safely explore black music and dance. It's fucked up they had to do it that way but segregation and anti-blackness was so deeply entrenched that white audiences would never see a white person just play tribute to African American art forms without some type of mockery to make them feel superior.

by Anonymousreply 85January 19, 2023 12:41 AM

[quote] So long as Disney never re-releases SONG OF THE SOUTH, I can look at some Judy in blackface.

I'd like to see "Song of the South." It features a wonderful performance by james baskett;iIn recognition of his portrayal of Uncle Remus, he was given an Honorary Academy Award in 1948, making him the first black male performer to receive an Oscar. Walt Disney himself lobbied for Baskett to get an Oscar.

By the way, the movie doesn't feature "happy slaves." The movie is set after the Civil War.

by Anonymousreply 86January 19, 2023 1:52 AM

[quote] By the way, the movie doesn't feature "happy slaves." The movie is set after the Civil War.

Thought criminal !

by Anonymousreply 87January 19, 2023 1:56 AM

R76 But what is so mature about white people making fun of black people? Like what inuring mindsets find any fascination with white people’s disgusting depictions of black people?

I’m just trying to understand why you find it so sophisticated and find young kids who are disgusted by it immature?

by Anonymousreply 88January 19, 2023 2:40 AM

A lot of things have racist and misogynistic origins. The witch stereotype (big hook nose, wearing black, poisoning) was derived from Anti-Semitic depictions. Walt Disney based Mickey Mouse on blackface vaudeville acts that were popular at the time as was Felix the Cat and Bosko. Films are products of their time and I agree some things should be retired as society moves on. Children shouldn't watch obvious racist propaganda because their minds are not developed enough to understand historical context. Judy was a kid performer and Hollywood studios back then treated child entertainers like crap plus greedy parents involved. I wouldn't blame a young girl at the time for donning a costume that was unfortunately very popular. Now people like Trudeau and Ted Danson have no excuses.

by Anonymousreply 89January 19, 2023 2:47 AM

[quote] This is where your own racism pops up because you’re [bold]erasing[/bold] black people from this time and dismissing what they thought.

ERASURE!

LITERAL VIOLENCE!

WHITEWASHING!

by Anonymousreply 91January 19, 2023 2:49 AM

r90 That was repulsive. It could have been produced by the Klan.

by Anonymousreply 92January 19, 2023 2:52 AM

Many Black entertainers at time who played stereotypical maids, slaves, buffoons and pickaninnies and even donned blackfae defended their roles saying "they rather play one than be one." Many did get rich from these portrayals despite not even being allowed to attend the Academy Awards, not allowed in all-white clubs unless performing and having to enter aid clubs from the back. Nancy Green who portrayed Aunt Jemima in ads got a very lucrative contract from making public appearances and her likeness used in merchandise. Many of them bashed the NAACP for always complaining and used their own funds to support Civil Rights measures and help other Black actors. Pre-Code Hollywood had a lot of black directors like Oscar Micheaux who used all-Black casts when white filmmakers still opted to use blackface. Black actors who wanted to be taken seriously and not be typecast as stereotypes or reduced to all-black musicals would move to Europe like Josephine Baker and Paul Robeson.

by Anonymousreply 93January 19, 2023 2:57 AM

They got every trope in there, didn't they, r92?

by Anonymousreply 94January 19, 2023 2:58 AM

I have no idea where such thinking could have started. Of course it's high time that these movies should be banned and be made unavailable to be watch by ANYONE.

You can't believe your eyes when you look at the screen. EVERYONE should be exhaustively triggered.

Especially since movies, automobiles, trains, television, radio, and space travel we all, we know as a fact, were invented by black people.

by Anonymousreply 95January 19, 2023 3:00 AM

The Reparations crowd is calling Judy's death delayed karma for her one blackface role.

Surprising no one.

by Anonymousreply 96January 19, 2023 3:00 AM

R96 You guys get so high and mighty until something homophobic happens. The hypocrisy in this thread is unbelievable.

by Anonymousreply 97January 19, 2023 3:06 AM

I always thought Judith Evelyn looked like Martha Mason.

by Anonymousreply 98January 19, 2023 3:13 AM

r90: They ready did. The huge lips, the "Lazytown", the light-skinned bombshell, the watermelon ....And the voices of the dark-skinned caricatures sounded like apes.

I could watch Judy in blackface over and over. This cartoon is absolute garbage from Walter "Woody Woodpecker" Lanz.

by Anonymousreply 99January 19, 2023 3:23 AM

R97 Who's being a hypocrite? Click the Twitter link, you drunken feeb! One of the top comments underneath it is from an account that pushes the "African Descendants of Slavery," or #ADOS, movement. The ADOS people have been viciously vocal on the subject of race relations and what one racial group "steals from" or is "owed by" the other racial groups. They're whackjobs, and here they are, blaming Judy's death on karma.

by Anonymousreply 100January 19, 2023 3:32 AM

Gays worshiping a racist. What else is new?

by Anonymousreply 101January 19, 2023 7:00 AM

Lol. No one gives a shit what Gen whatever-comes-after-Z thinks about Judy Garland.

by Anonymousreply 103January 19, 2023 2:01 PM

[quote]She's remember for playing Dorothy

She sho is!

by Anonymousreply 104January 19, 2023 2:04 PM

R83 I stand by my statement. I hate blackface as much as other black folks.

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by Anonymousreply 105January 19, 2023 2:06 PM

She may never work again!

by Anonymousreply 106January 19, 2023 2:20 PM

[quote]The Reparations crowd is calling Judy's death delayed karma for her one blackface role.

It's not a crowd, it's one person with a sketchy ADOS account -- many are either trolls or grifters and I HIGHLY suspect a lot of those Twitter ADOS influencers aren't even black people.

by Anonymousreply 107January 19, 2023 2:27 PM

r107 it could have been said when ados first appeared but there's a significant (physically small, virtually expansive and crossing borders) amount of idiotic young people in the mix because it capitalizes on their animosity against "black" model minorities and just internationals in general, particularly landed immigrants and expats (tensions have been high for the last couple decades - blm (the official org and representatives, not the movment) only added fuel to the burn). . . many who were expecting a revolution post trump but saw their support dwindle away once he was ousted. And of course, Kanye, even if they were hating him weeks before, his censure (and others) has given than pent up wangst a direction for release.

If you want visual confirmation there's many, many video sites to choose from. Tiktok likes to promote the strife but they've been shutting down some accounts with pressures of negative influence from the (chinese) govt following the protests of last month.

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by Anonymousreply 108January 19, 2023 3:30 PM

R 96: Judy appeared in blackface three times: EVERYBODY SING (1938), BABES IN ARMS (1939) and BABES ON BROADWAY (1941) .

by Anonymousreply 110January 19, 2023 4:17 PM

Manufactured outrage thread. I'm so tired of trolls here presenting completely random Twitter posts from obscure crankpots as evidence of massive social engineering being forced on innocent people. It reeks of right wing nuttery.

by Anonymousreply 111January 19, 2023 4:35 PM

Does cancelling her for blackface balance out with the sympathy we're meant to feel for her as an alcoholic working mother who was molested by her gay father and a dozen studio executives all throughout her childhood?

I need to decide which flavor of pointless public emotion she gets: Is this a #BelieveWomen saga, or a #CancelHer saga?

by Anonymousreply 112January 19, 2023 5:08 PM

R111 90% of posters take the bait. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 113January 19, 2023 7:05 PM

My goodness, why should any of us give a fuck about what Twitter thinks? Twitter is falling apart and will hopefully die in the coming years. All Twitter is good for is giving Fox News et al. ammo: "Democrats CANCEL Judy Garland!"

Yes blackface was a demeaning and shameful practice, but it left most forms of entertainment 70 fucking years ago (our Joan being one of the last major examples on film), let adults view and discuss those performances.

As for Judy, she was and will always be the STAR of THE WIZARD OF OZ—a film that is by all meaningful metrics the most viewed film in history. This nonsense will pass, Judy Is eternal. The trolley will go "clang, clang, clang," until the end of time!

by Anonymousreply 114January 19, 2023 7:11 PM

Judy rocked “Waitin’ for the Robert E. Lee” while in blackface. She was friendly with plenty of black celebrities and performers, and had several on her TV show. Her rendition of “Ol’ Man Rover” quite poignant and real.

by Anonymousreply 116September 5, 2023 9:39 PM

Judy Garland! Until Donald Trump came along, there was nobody who played the "victim card" more than her. "Poor me, woe is me, pity me..."

It was always everybody else's fault. She never took responsibility.

by Anonymousreply 117September 5, 2023 11:09 PM

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